This entry covers the closing episodes of Clannad After Story. I will probably do one last shorter entry for my overall thoughts and opinions, but first I need to set the story straight. I’ll give you a forewarning that this entry is extremely long. A PDF version is being prepared.
I hate this city. It’s full of all the memories I want to forget about. Go to school every day, chat with friends, and then go back to the home I don’t even want to go back to.
Will something eventually change, doing this? Will that day come?An-pan!
Do you like this school? I really, really like it.
But nothing can stay unchanged.A girl I’ve never seen before.
The words weren’t directed at me. She must be talking to someone in her heart.Fun things… Happy things… They can’t all possible stay unchanged.
Even so, can you keep on loving this place?Just find them. Just find new fun and happy things.
C’mon, let’s get going.We start to walk up…
…the long… long… uphill climb.Tomoya & Nagisa, episode 1
The closing episode of Clannad After took us by quite a surprise. The cryptic and puzzling ending, especially with Fuko, could be referred to as the Evangelion of Drama: fragmented pieces, seemingly irrelevant scenes, and an indefinite ending With time travel inevitably in the picture, the issue of ‘what happened when’ arose and aroused.. Many of us have our attention on 2chan’s Clannad Storyline Diagram as presented by Sankaku Complex. I have not played the game yet, so I was half-excited and half-nervous when I saw this; I really wanted to make an interpretation on my own. But I also wanted to see what interpretation was most widely accepted by the community, and I believed there might be some clues to help my own interpretation. Sankaku’s diagram gives an explanation of the entire Clannad series by showing us when each episode actually occurs. According to it, we never watch Tomoya and Nagisa in their first life, until her death after Ushio is born. The story then proceeds with After Story episodes 17 – 21. After jumping back in time, Tomoya saved Nagisa with light orbs gathered by helping the supporting characters as we saw in episodes 1 to After Story episode 16. Aside from completely omitting the Illusionary World, it contradicts with the story as presented by the episodes. This is my train of logic:
- Tomoya went back in time due to grief over Ushio’s and Nagisa’s deaths.
- For both Ushio and Nagisa to have died, Tomoya must have married and started a family with Nagisa.
- For Tomoya to have married Nagisa, they must have dated.
- For Nagisa and Tomoya to have dated, they must have re-established the theatre club.
- To have re-established the theatre club, Tomoya (and Nagisa) must have recruited other members.
- To have recruited other members, Tomoya and Nagisa must have helped them and become their friends.
- Therefore, if Tomoya did not help the other characters, none of the above would have happened.
This alone is enough evidence to disprove the diagram. There are additional discrepancies which I will present, but before I move on, I need to lay out some terms that I will be using.
Psychological Time: Time as it elapses in one’s mind.
Chronological Time: Time as is felt by one’s body; or as felt by the world.
Explanatory Example: Lets say Tomoya is 25 years old when Ushio dies. At this point, he is both psychologically and chronologically 25 years old. Now he is sent five years back in time, and this time he lives a 60 more fruitful years until he dies at the age of 80. At that point, he has passed 85 years psychologically (25 + 60), which is how many years have elapsed in his mind. Chronologically, he has passed 80 years – his existence in that world was 80 years long, and that is how old his body is. The difference between the two (5 years) is the length of the time-travel leap.
Oh, just another note: when I reference episode numbers, episodes from After Story will always be preceded by AS. Thus there are 25 episodes when I say ‘episodes 1 – AS 2’, inclusive (Tomoyo After is excused from this discussion).
Back on topic, remember the scene in the final episode of After Story with the following conversation? This is right after Tomoya was sent back in time.
Nagisa…
I was really worried you might be thinking that you should have never met me.
I’m glad that I met you. I had a wonderful life.Nagisa.
So please. Don’t lose yourself.
No matter what may await, please don’t regret meeting me.
Is that too much to ask?You’re right…
Thank you.Nagisa & Tomoya, After Story episode 22
This quote proves two things. Firstly, this undeniably proves that Nagisa is also aware of what happened in the previous world. Secondly, if at the bottom of the hill both Nagisa and Tomoya were aware of their travel through time, they would acknowledge that they have already married. Building from this, there would be no shyness between them in any of the episodes, and would have no motive to suppress or hide their feelings from each other.
Continuing, recall when Nagisa had a mental breakdown the day before the School Festival. If this indeed happened after travelling back in time, Nagisa must have already known that her parents changed their dreams for her sake, and thus would not have been emotionally shocked when she found photo albums and video tapes in the shed.
If Tomoya had known about the seriousness of his father’s condition, he would have done all that he could to prevent it. His promotion was drowned because of his father’s dealings with drugs, so if he had known beforehand he would have done all he could to prevent it. Also, he made up with his father before Ushio’s death. There would be no reason for Tomoya to put off settling the misunderstandings with his father after travelling back in time.
It must have been hard.
Yeah.
Ryou, Kotomi, and Youhei are all worried about you.
We were thinking maybe we should visit you when we got together over New Year’s, but we ended up saying it’d be best to leave you alone for now.Thanks.
But this means that everything’s settled, right? All the loose ends?
Yeah.
Kyou & Tomoya, After Story episode 20
After Nagisa’s death, Ushio proceeded to attend kindergarten under Sanae and Akio. Kyou was her teacher, and when Tomoya finally readopted Ushio, Kyou mentioned the members of the theatre club and how they wanted to meet him. Nagisa had already died, and Tomoya was friends with the Theatre Club. This proves that Tomoya had already helped the heroines during his first psychological life, again disproving the timeline diagram.
All girls like fortune telling at the genetic level.
Of course, it’s a pity that I can’t get it right, but I think it’s better if I don’t.
If the results come true, it’s as if there’s only one future.
But if it fails, we can think that other futures exist.
We never know how the future shifts because of the slightest change.
I want to believe that in our future there are many possibilities waiting.Ryou Fujibayashi, episode 18
Now I would like to bring forward and explain my own interpretation. There is no way of knowing how true to the intended plot my interpretation stands, but all the clues I have found have pointed me this way, and I cannot find any big holes in my interpretation.
This is a world that has ended; a world where no one but I exist.
In the room are a small wooden table and a chair.
Outside the window is a vast plain with nothing.
The building is old, and there is no clue of when it was built.
I live here alone.The play, episode 22
Ushio existed alone in the imaginary world. I am uncertain the exact reason for this, but it definitely has something to do with Nagisa’s disease, which was passed onto Ushio when she gave birth and died. In this world, we have illuminating light orbs. We have learned from various segments that the lights represent memories from another world. We learned in Shima’s arc that these light orbs are able to grant wishes. I will jump to conclude that these orbs are ‘happy’ memories, as I see no reason to consider otherwise. But, aside from the light orbs floating freely in the sky, there is another major phenomenon in the Illusionary World. This would be none other than the junk, whose existence is similar to the light orbs, but have a different implication. If the light orbs are good memories from the Real World, then what is the junk?
I picked up branches, nails, and may other things.
It’s to make a friend.
But, will the one being born be happy?
With some doubt in mind…The play, episode 22
This world has indeed ended.
No more lives will be born; she’s the only being with life.
Either in the distant past or the dist future, I was in a different place.
It was a very lively place, but I can no longer return there.
I have this body she made for me.The Robot, episode 22
As you may have guessed, the junk represents despair; they are memories from the Real World that one does not want to keep. And using this junk; using this despair, Ushio create a companion. Tomoya was not born into the Illusionary world by pure coincidence. He existed in the Illusionary World in the form of bad memories, which is precisely what he became after experiencing Ushio’s death. He regretted meeting Nagisa and all the things they did during their senior year. With nothing left, he no longer wanted to live on in his current world, so he was created and born into the Illusionary World. Whether he and Ushio actually died or not is not shown, but that is irrelevant.
In the Illusionary World, Ushio eventually comes to realize who she and the Robot are. She tells Tomoya, and then sends him back in time to the moment where he and Nagisa first met at the bottom of the hill. Having learnt everything he needed, he grabbed Nagisa and re-lived his life. The second third of AS episode 22 shows his second life, the surreal light and slow-motion are fast-forward representations of what happened between metting Nagisa the second time up to Ushio’s birth. Tomoya’s second school life is represented in the episode, but beyond that we don’t know any details. This leaves all but one section covered, which is the final third of AS episode 22: Clannad’s final closing scene.
So what’s the deal here? Fuko again? As moé as Fuko is, doesn’t KyoAni realize they already budgeted too much time on her? Why would they use the most insignificant, childish character for the closing scene to an otherwise great series? It seems like they tried to put so much emphasis on her, too. Aside from her screen time, she’s second in line in the ending sequence of AS episode 22, and fourth in line when he have the achromatic fly-by right before Ushio sends Tomoya back in time. But… why?
The city will change. But there are many people who treasure these sakura trees. Not just me. Many people who live in this city feel that way. No matter how depressing a place may look, the most important places don’t change. I think there’s a similar aspect to family, too.
Tomoyo Sakagami, episode 18
The answer is clear. At least, it will be by the time you finish reading this entry, to which I must inform you is not even halfway to the end yet. Let’s first run a background check on Fuko. She was involved in a car accident in her freshman year and has been in a coma ever since. Because of this, Fuko’s sister, Kouko, was thinking of putting off her plans to marry Yoshino until Fuko awakened. Fuko knew she would not wake up anytime soon, so she created a second existence in her high school and tried to convince the students to give their blessings to her sister and fiancé. She met Tomoya and Nagisa, and together they convinced Kouko and helped her carry through with her marriage, and they even gathered many students to give their blessings and wishes to the newlywed couple. Fuko would be forever grateful towards Tomoya and Nagisa.
After her main arc, Fuko had some random appearances. Although these sequences were awkward yet light-hearted, she continued to try to help Tomoya and his friends whenever they encountered difficulties. Whatever her actions were, we can say for sure that Fuko has a strong ability to transverse between the worlds and to re-manifest herself in a secondary form. This must have been the result of the accident that happened to her on the first day of her freshman year.
Let’s take a more detailed look into Fuko’s arcs. In her first main arc, Fuko had one major contribution: She brought Nagisa and Tomoya closer together, both mentally and physically. She made Tomoya and Nagisa call each other by first name and made them comfortable sleeping on each other’s shoulders (episode 9). Helping Fuko also acquainted Tomoya and Nagisa with some of the other heroines, and without her help Tomoya and Nagisa may have never taken the first step towards their dating. We also have the appearance of Fuko towards the end of After Story; her second main arc. She fell in love with Ushio, but more importantly, Fuko recognized that Tomoya was still grieving over his deceased Nagisa. She kept asking Tomoya if he saw Nagisa in her, and was troubled when Okazaki started crying after hearing Ushio talk about her mother (AS episode 20). She must have remembered, subconsciously, what Tomoya and Nagisa had done for her and her sister many years ago. And because of that, she felt the need to repay Tomoya for his good deeds.
Shall I… Shall I take you?
To the place in this city where wishes come true?The play, episode 22
Ushio had a habit of walking to the hospital; this is the field Akio brought Nagisa to after he found her collapsed in the snow. Nagisa dreamt of the imaginary world and linked with that field, and when she died giving birth she passed that link onto Ushio. In the final scene, we watched Fuko find her way from the hospital to Ushio by way of scent. When she first arrives, she sees Imaginary World Ushio, but we know from the subsequent sequence that it is the Real World Ushio. Maybe Fuko does in fact see Ushio as she is presented in the Illusionary World? Whatever the case, knowing that Fuko had a glimpse of Imaginary World Ushio is further evidence to support the theory of her hidden world abilities.
Now, brace yourself while I present my biggest conjecture of this article.
Recall Fuko in the earlier episodes. More precisely, recall her attire. Aside from the standard school uniform, she had black knee-socks, and a ribbon that tied her hair into a tail. Black feet, black tail. Does that ring any bells?
Now does that ring any bells? Fuko is the sheep we see in AS episode 2. But it’s not only in the appearance where I have proof. Remember how the Robot got lost, and the sheep somehow led him back to Ushio? The sheep must have been able to instinctively lead the Robot back to Ushio. Fuko stated in episode 20 that she had memorized Ushio’s scent; that’s how she found Ushio by the hospital two episodes later. The field by the tree, where Nagisa was brought by Akio, where Ushio instinctively wanders, and where Fuko saw Illusionary World Ushio, is the place that links Nagisa, Ushio, Fuko, and the Illusionary World together. Here, Fuko, after recognizing Tomoya’s grief, showed the Imaginary World Ushio the dream where she learned who she and the Robot were in the Real World. Just like how Nagisa dreamed of the Illusionary World at that place, Ushio in the Illusionary World dreamt of the Real World because Fuko and Ushio were there. That is the place in the city where dreams come true. Ushio’s revelatory dream in the Imaginary World was what Fuko meant the by closing statement “This is where the fun begins”.
So you’re saying that this world and the hidden world are related strongly at a deep level?
Yes. Time, space, and people’s minds echo in a strange way to recreate both worlds or create whole new ones. They might be affecting each other like that. That’s what I wanted to say.
Could our lives be tied to that world, too?
Maybe, then yet again maybe not.
Kotomi Ichinose, After Story episode 16
Fuko holds a key to the Clannad series. In fact, I believe she holds the key, the key to Tomoya’s time travel and consequently his second joy-filled life. That is why Fuko is so strangely emphasized throughout the entire series. Without Fuko, Nagisa and Tomoya would have never gotten that first push needed before they could start pursuing each other. Without Fuko, the Robot would have gotten lost in the Illusionary World. Without Fuko, Illusionary World Ushio would never come to realize who she and her creation were, and thus would not have been able to send Tomoya back in time. Without Fuko, Tomoya would forever live in grief like his father. When Tomoya and Nagisa decided to help Fuko and her sister’s wedding in their senior year, they had created a foolproof plan towards their ultimate happiness. If anything went wrong in the future, Fuko would restructure the worlds and send Tomoya back in time with knowledge of the abilities of the Illusionary World.
Like we can see people’s feelings from the other world as light in this world,
my feelings will become many lights in that world and shimmer.Illusionary World Ushio, After Story episode 22
There is one more piece to put together before the entire picture is complete. This is Ushio’s role. We learned that Ushio is the Illusionary World; she is the container of memories. We know the rumour about light orbs granting wishes, but: Can one’s wishes be granted if they are unaware they are in possession of any of these light orbs? Simply put, no. We know this because Nagisa had died. If Tomoya was aware of the Illusionary World’s abilities the first time around, (remember that Ushio is the Illusionary World) we would have had a happily ever after and AS episodes 17 – 22 would not have existed. So the only way the light orbs could be used is if one is aware of their existence, and the only way Tomoya could be aware depended on two conditions:
- Nagisa and Ushio must have died, causing Tomoya to despair over his entire life and subsequently be delivered into the Illusionary World;
- Fuko must have revealed to Illusionary World Ushio who she and the Robot were in the Real world.
After reawakening at the bottom of the hill, Tomoya knows exactly what his, Nagisa’s and Ushio’s roles are. With this knowledge he is able to live the happy life which formerly was only a fantasy.
There may be more than one hidden world.
There’s a theory of multiple worlds existing, too.Fujibayashi, I remember you saying something like that when you were talking about fortune telling.
Yes. There is no one future, but there are many possibilities. I still think that.
Kotomi, Tomoya & Ryou, After Story episode 16
This concludes my discourse. I will now summarize my interpretation of the entire plot of Clannad; please refer to this timeline diagram.
Everything up to AS 21 happens as we perceive it. This is the first psychological life; Nagisa dies, but Tomoya can’t save her; he is unaware of Ushio’s abilities. Upon death, Nagisa’s ailment is passed onto Ushio. Fuko, who has frequently transcended the worlds during her unconsciousness, is able to rouse Illusionary World Ushio and reveal her role in the Real World to her. This is the final scene if AS episode 22. Real World Ushio and Illusionary World Ushio are now connected. Ushio eventually dies from Nagisa’s ailment. Illusionary World Ushio creates the junk doll and brings the despairing Tomoya to her world. Since time does not exist in the Illusionary World, this occurs before Ushio’s dream and contact with Fuko. Illusionary World Ushio’s powers slowly start running out. Because of Fuko in the Real World, she dreams about who she and the Robot are, and she uses the last of her strength to send Tomoya back in time. This is the first third of AS episode 22. Tomoya awakens at the foot of the hill and dashes to Nagisa. He goes through his senior year similarly as we have seen in his first psychological life, but this time through, he is aware of Ushio’s abilities and is able to save both her and Nagisa. We don’t see this in detail; this is represented by the blurred surreal monochrome sequences in the second third of AS episode 22. As per the middle section of AS episode 22, Nagisa and Ushio are alive and cured from the ailment, and Tomoya, Nagisa and Ushio live happily ever after.





wow.
detailed and make a lot of sense compare to the forums. I like your timeline better than the one presented on Sankaku too
not sure about the “link Ushio with the illusionary world” part, but heck
This is a really awesome post, I can just imagine how much time this took to write. So many people have been just writing off the ending as a Deus Ex ending which I think blatantly wrong. I haven’t played the game either but I think there’s enough clues in the anime to explain what actually happened. Your time line is approximately the same thing that I thought on my own and I’m glad to see someone else putting the events in that order since that makes it seem more plausible. Some of the things that you bring up, I remember bugging me (like the sheep and the importance of Fuko) because I felt they meant something but I didn’t know what at the time.
Once again, really great post, I’ll probably re-read it a few more times.
I am not 100% satisfied with the ending, but having all the elements explained thoroughly does give the ending much more meaning and relevance than the widely-written “oops—undo”. I don’t think the ending is not a Deus-ex-Machina, but it’s certainly less of one than what I initially conceived. It is a Deux-ex-Machina justifiable by the plot—wait, isn’t that an oxymoron?
I’ve heard that the Clannad’s movie version has a much more tangible ending, I am looking forward to watching that. But I’m glad the TV series incited me to write this explanation; I think I understand at least twice as much about the Clannad World as I formerly had.
I also disagree with the 2chan Timeline as it doesn’t make sense with the anime presentation.
I ran into this article trying to see if someone else had come up with a differing Timeline. I have my own Timeline that I had created in the AoD forums a few weeks ago.
Timeline 1 (never shown)
Nagisa and Tomoya get together but Tomoya doesn’t help out anyone and Nagisa dies, Ushio dies later. Tomoya is transported back in time to the “Hill”;
Timeline 2 (start time “Hill”)
Nagisa and Tomoya get together and he helps out people but Nagisa dies because he doesn’t have enough orbs (but gets more later on). Fuko meets Ushio via Tomoya. Ushio later dies. Tomoya dies as well but is transported back in time to when Nagisa is in labor (in Timeline 2, both Nagisa and Tomoya seem to have memories of or are connect to a parallel world where Ushio exists in some alternate form)
Timeline 3 (start time “Nagisa in labor”)
Tomoya has enough orbs and is able to prevent Nagisa from dying. Ushio lives a healthy life. Fuko meets Ushio in the forest. Tomoya, Fuko, Ushio and Nagisa have a picnic in the forest.
I believe that Tomoya and Nagisa could have eventually gone out without the help of the others around them (Timeline 1). You could easily say that if Tomoya hesitated in Timeline 2 to date Nagisa, it might have been because subconsciously he was aware that Nagisa was going to die and so resisted.
I also disagree with the 2chan timeline as to the fact that the after events when Nagisa died were actually part of the first Timeline since like you mentioned he continually references people who would have been involved in the Drama Club (which couldn’t have happened if Tomoya wasn’t helping people out).
Hey there tai!
I must say that this is a great post! Seriously, many of my doubts were cleared, with regards to the storyline of Clannad of course, and I do feel that your interpretation is, IMO, the most solid one I’ve encountered.
Cheers & credits to you =)
now i realized Fuko’s importance,,, i knew some of the elements in clannad is significant in explaining the whole imaginary thing…
hmm…i wonder why tomoya sort of “remember” this illusionary world in his first 25-year experience… are there any explanations? hmm… maybe i have to watch clannad again…
I am new to anime but i thoroughly enjoyed the Clannad series. I like how you put things and it clears up the importance of Fuko in the end. I only disagree on the bottom of the hill where they seem to know there fate. I dont think its out of place and that this meeting means that they should be aware of future relationship. I think it more symbolizes the moment they accepted their path,,,, to me it seems to tie in with Ryou’s belief that other futures exist.
And maybe Tomoya’s memory of the illusionary world was from a link of the various worlds overlapping in the way Fuko was able to ‘move’ through the worlds.
Still i liked reading ur interpertation!
Visual Novel reader here, you cant really disprove 2chan’s timeline diagram by just using the anime as reference because:
1. What Illusionary World Ushio did was not time travel. As explained in the anime, more so in the VN, alternate realities exists. Ushio used the Light Orbs to create another reality where everything went fine. In other words, its another whole new world, with the same people, only with different situations.
2. Real World Ushio, Nagisa and Tomoya doesnt have memories of any previous world. While Nagisa and Tomoya does know about the Illusionary World, it’s only because Nagisa is linked to Illusionary World Ushio (Nagisa was saved by her when she young, and in turn, Real World Ushio was born from Nagisa.) And Tomoya is really the robot doll that Ushio made to collect Light Orbs from alternate realities, which they both see in their dreams. So why does Tomoya retain his memory of Nagisa’s death and the years later in the recap episode? It’s because in the VN, YOU as the reader sees things in Tomoya’s point of view. You witness what he witnesses. In other words, the anime shouldnt have inserted the line “I remember stuff happening” because it only confuses the hell out of people more.
3. In the VN, the only essential ones in starting the Drama Club were Nagisa, Tomoya and Sunohara. You can interact and ask for help from the others but they’re completely optional, so Nagisa and Tomoya could(well, they did) start the club, become a couple, get married and have Ushio without bumping with the other girls much. Kyou is still Tomoya’s friend though, that’s why she knew what happened to Tomoya in the After Story.
4. As stated above, alternate realities is the real answer here. The bottom of the hill is the starting point of every reality, and will later on branch off. So, what’s with Tomoya proclaiming his ever lasting love for Nagisa in the bottom of the hill? Well, it only occurs inside Tomoya’s head. Yes, i shit you not. The reader is presented with a choice in the Ushio birth scene.
To not call out Nagisa – Because the reality of losing her will hurt as hell, it’s better (What Tomoya though at that time) that they’ve never met so that he wont get hurt.
or
To call out Nagisa – Despite all the sadness and pain that may come, despite that Nagisa might die that very second, Tomoya chose to not regret meeting and falling in love with her. The scene in the bottom of the hill is a presentation of Tomoya’s choice, which is to face reality, whatever it maybe, and embrace it.
5. Illusionary World Ushio is aware of her power and Real World Ushio is not. Yes, they’re not really the same person and in the same time, they are. Real World Ushio starts getting aware of her power years later but thats Another Story. Also, Illusionary World Ushio planned all the gathering the light orbs from different realities.
Still with me?
6. The thing with Fuko transcending time, space and dimension is probably right … althought there IS another probable answer to why. After finishing Fuko’s route, you’ll unlock an option in a another route(another reality), to help Fuko recover from her coma via the use of a Light Orb. Purely speculation on my part but it probably linked Fuko to Ushio and you know the rest.
7. Nagisa linked to the Town and Ushio is linked to the World, or rather, Ushio is the Illusionary World.
So after all those pointed out, lets do a few things …
1. Replace “Timeline” with “Wolrd”, making Timeline 1 into “Nagisa World” 1, 2 and 3. Yes, i counted it as three. Original timeline (Where it all began, Nagisa dies giving birth), World 2 (Ushio and Tomoya stats gathering light orbs) and World 3 (Happy End)
2. Make everything simplified by turning all the story arcs as “routes” aka alternate realities.
3. Well, we could just ignore all the explanations and focus on the emotions felt watching the series since its really what Clannad is all about.
Just someone passing by to clear up a little bit of confusion.
maybe..every time fuko gets unconscious(due to starfish or dreaming), she moves from world to world, and when fuko dreamed about tomoya while giving her a piggyback ride, she made a link between 2 worlds..hmm? or maybe im thinking too much..
I had just finished episode AS21 and was puzzling over Fuko scenting Ushio when I came across your brilliant explanation of the series. All the puzzle peices are now perfectly fitted. Thanks so much
Thank you for this valuable explanation! I will be sure to give you a link as soon as I have finished a place where I can put my thoughts about Anime and the world.
Oh My God. i never thought of it this way.
I read everything perfectly and understood where you were getting at.
I need to rush, but thanks so much for helping me understand this more.
-Paul;
This is a better explanation than the one presented by 2chan in my opinion. However I have some small doubts.
Are there any explanations as to how Nagisa knew of the illusionary world story in the first place? Also an explanation as to how Tomoyo remembers parts of the story in the 1st life as another person above me has mentioned.
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I think you are taking CLANNAD too seriously in your explanation to disprove the diagram from 2ch/sankaku complex.
You are attaching too much physiological reasoning to an anime series. There are going to be plot holes and it isn’t meant to be 100% realistic to human life. From your ‘about page’, your interest in human psychology has ultimately skewed your interpretation of this series by a little bit.
Your whole gripe on how Tomoya is 85 years old mentally and how Nagisa/Tomoya now shouldn’t be shy to each other after he is sent back, is just far-fetched. Since you seem to accept the fact that there should be physiological realism in the series, you don’t even question the possibility of time travel unrealistic. CLANNAD is not meant to be 100% real human life, time travel isn’t possible in our world, and there is a bit of magic in the series (that is the whole point).
Your article proves that you have not played the game, and you even said it yourself in the first paragraph. You should play the VN Higurashi no Naku Koro ni or even watch the anime. There they do something similar. If you play the VN, as Tomoya you are suppose to make choices to help people throughout the game. Each time you help someone, you gain a light orb, in order to get the best ending (anime ending), you must collect enough (?all) light orbs. If you don’t collect enough, you get a ‘what-ever ending’, and the game is over/restarts. This is similar to Higurashi, you must play the game through multiple-times to get to the best end if you keep messing up. Like in the Higurashi anime, each time it is reset, no one has any memory of what happened in the previous instance.
Your diagram is not wrong, but your interpretation of how Tomoya or Nagisa should know certain things after ‘time travel’ is just wrong. They start fresh a-new, Tomoya helps everyone out and he gets enough light orbs and he saves Nagisa and Ushio.
the 2ch timeline is not ‘wrong’ per-se but it is following the anime interpretation of the game. They did their best to show the game in all aspects.
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However, I agree with the Fuko section of your article. Very informative, but possibly far-fetched in saying that she was all knowing. Fuko did play an integral part of the story, but you could say everyone did. As everyone’s encounter contributed to a light orb.
Your explanation on how Fuko is the sheep is convincing, to degree (you may be right), but there is no plain open hard evidence to point to the fact that Fuko showed the dream to Illusionary World Ushio and that she transcends all space/time.
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I just read “justpassingby”s comment, and he is 100% right.
It’s not arcs, but routes. That is how all VN’s are.
Play the game and then re-watch the entire series again. It will make more sense.
your interpretation isn’t all wrong, just way-OVER analyzed.
CLANNAD is about emotion, and as people said, CLANNAD IS Life.
Live our your life to the fullest with no regrets.
@Casio: everything is speculation to a degree, there is no hard evidence to explain how Nagisa knew about the illusionary world. but i mean she did give birth to Ushio, there is some type of connection there already. that should be enough.
and how Tomoyo remembers parts of the story in the 1st life? read “justpassingby”s comment. it shouldn’t really have been put in there for the sake of Tomoya and realism check.
This is a fantastic explanation together justpassingby’s ideas. It really makes sense of everything. I’ve got one small niggling detail however. Would someone like to explain what was happening in the two episodes foccused on Misae and Katsuki? (AS ep 5 and 6).
From what I’ve gathered through my own research, the real Katsuki was dying and sent his cat out to grant one wish to the girl who cheered him up in the hospital, (Misae). When Misae however wishes for the cat version of Katsuki to be with her forever, he has to grant that wish and is then turned back into a cat. Years later, the cat gives Tomoya the dream in hopes that he will be able to pass on what he wasn’t able to say to Misae on the night he had to grant her wish.
This is all well and interesting but obviously there are some tie ins with the Illusionary World, such as the wish granting. Does anyone have any more ideas about this or is it purposely meant to be a side note in the series that is related to the Illusionary World but has no real part of the main storyline?
Having just watched the anime again (still not having played the game) I came back to this article trying to explain to my wife what had happened!
I think this article is really usefull laying out some important points; especially Fuko’s significance.
I do agree with the alternate reality ideas in other comments; I think rather than time travel Fuko, Tomoya, Ushio are able to see glimpses of the alternate realities, ‘worlds’, that Kotomi speaks of. It’s evident that worlds can be created, cease to be and be passed between. So much emphasis is put on the City; perhaps it’s a metaphysical ‘pin’ holding together alternate ‘worlds’ at one point.
The suggestion that Tomoya had not gathered enough light-orbs to save Nagisa first time around is perhaps supported by what happens when he is reconcilled with his father; the light-orb released actually goes into Tomoya; perhaps signifying he now has the capacity to use the light-orbs (but only acquires the knowledge of this in the illusory world when Ushio reveals who she is and sends him back to the ‘warm ‘world.
Thank you again for the article and all the comments – I still don’t know what was happening exactly, but I love this anime, I’m sure next time I watch the series through I’ll come up with totally different theories.
I think the problem is that we haven’t played the game. From what I’ve heard, in the game, you complete each heroine’s route without interacting with the route of another heroine. This means, if you go Nagisa’s route, you can’t do the other’s routes. Its obvious why you can’t do Tomoyo and Kyou’s route if you are on Nagisa’s, since two-timing is not allowed, but you can’t even do Fuko and Kotomi’s either (like how it was in the anime). For example, one of the choices in the game leads to either Fuko’s or Nagisa’s route, if you choose Fuko then you will have little to no intereaction with Nagisa anymore throughout that play through. If you did not complete every heroine’s route and collect all the light orbs, you get the bad ending for “After Story,” get sent to the main menu, and have to start over. I find ironic that in order to save Nagisa, you HAVE to cheat on her but meh.